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#1 marke

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Posted 06 February 2004 - 01:22 AM

Here is another energy saver.http://www.ep-systems.co.uk/
Looks like standard power factor correction. Any one have any comments or experience with this one??
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Posted 06 February 2004 - 02:07 AM

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Here is another energy saver.http://www.ep-systems.co.uk/
Looks like standard power factor correction. Any one have any comments or experience with this one??
Best regards,


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Posted 06 February 2004 - 02:12 AM

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Originally posted by marke
Here is another energy saver.http://www.ep-systems.co.uk/
Looks like standard power factor correction. Any one have any comments or experience with this one??
Best regards,


this site is only to correct power factor. correcting power factor don't really save real power. residential doesn't mater . cause residential is not been penalized because of poor power factor. Correcting power factor is important on industrial sector , poor power factor less than 90% means higher bill as a penalty.

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 03:13 AM

mark:


this is precisely what i was in reference to when asking about pfc on a residence, nice to see that there is a ready made solution.

yes i understand that it is useless if i get my power from the power company, but as an offgrid installation i am the power company, and pfc looks to show some promise.

thanks for the link

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Posted 10 November 2004 - 07:18 AM

Hi there,

I have looked at the web mentioned above and believe they are using some PFC technology for kVA saving and not kW saving!

Here is another one, pls see http://www.neuronmicrosystems.com

I believe their energy saving products are more solid but yet to wait for some time to tell.

Cheers!

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Posted 12 February 2005 - 03:40 AM

Especially the first one ... LOL


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Posted 14 October 2005 - 11:18 AM

Dear all,

Here is another "new" energy saving product, see: http://www.monsterenergy.com.my/

When I looked at the so called test report, it seems that it is another capacitor based device playing around with PF, you may see some value with negative wattage, is this saying that the device is generating power back to the electricity supplier?

Also you can see that almost PF became worst after the device was working, so can I conclude that this is another PFC device?

As for the "Industrial Saver" it seems that these are voltage reduction devices, which use transformers to step down the output voltages to equipments. I doubt if they really work?

Please advice.

Cheers!

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 06:44 PM

Hi schow

Well that report is interesting!! we have lamps that produce light and power !!
There are obviously some serious flaws in the report, or the testing methods, or both.

I suspect that the unit is just plain old PF correction and that either the measurements were incorrectly done, or the wrong instrumentation was used.

Good for a joke , but unfortunately, there will be some that are taken in by it.

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