Can A Ac Drive Give Output Voltage More Than The Supply Voltage. |
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Can A Ac Drive Give Output Voltage More Than The Supply Voltage. |
May 9 2008, 10:33 AM
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Dear Sir,
All inverters are specified that Output voltage can be max equal to input voltage(Ac to AC converter). Is their any inverter available, which can provide more output voltage than the supply voltage. Regards, |
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May 9 2008, 11:07 AM
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Posting Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,099 Joined: 24-April 02 From: Christchurch, New Zealand Member No.: 1 |
Hello vst
Welcome to the forum. A VFD operates by rectifying the incoming supply voltage converting it to DCvoltage. This DC voltage is then chopped up to convert it back to AC voltage. The maximum output AC voltage is limited by the maximum DC voltage which is limited by the AC input voltage, so the only way to get a higher output voltage is to include a transformer at the output or the input. Best regards, Mark -------------------- Mark Empson administrator
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May 11 2008, 03:26 AM
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![]() Posting Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 654 Joined: 22-February 03 From: USA, California Member No.: 285 |
There are, however, small VFDs, (under 2kW) for use in the North American market which can take 120VAC input and produce a 240VAC max output, so you can run a 230V motor from a 120V supply. What they do is to insert a "voltage doubler" circuit on the DC side of the rectifier to increase the DC bus voltage before the transistors, so the AC that the transistors produce is at twice the voltage of the input. It is a somewhat inefficient process, but on small motors the losses are still low. That however becomes a serious problem on larger power systems, so you don't typically see anyone doing that.
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May 11 2008, 03:31 AM
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Posting Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,099 Joined: 24-April 02 From: Christchurch, New Zealand Member No.: 1 |
Good point, I had forgotten about that, but this is pretty ugly on supply side harmonic currents, but small drives are not particularly good anyway.
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May 12 2008, 04:41 AM
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Good point, I had forgotten about that, but this is pretty ugly on supply side harmonic currents, but small drives are not particularly good anyway. Best regards, Dear Marke and Jraef, Thank You very much for your answers . As you said Input RMS ac is convereted in to Dc And then converted again in to Ac . I assumes some percenatge of losses during this conversion???. And hence the out put should be less than the input RMS value. I want to know  |
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May 12 2008, 07:36 AM
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Posting Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,099 Joined: 24-April 02 From: Christchurch, New Zealand Member No.: 1 |
Hello VST
Yes, you are correct, the output voltage for a pure clean sinewave current is lower than the input due to the voltage drops in the circuit, but a small amount of 3rd harmonic can be introduced into the waveform to lift the effective voltage. The best output voltage will be achieved in inverters that do not use DC bus chokes or AC Line reactors. This causes the rectifier to act as a peak rectifier and results in the maximum DC voltage. If a DC bus choke is used, the rectifier will act more like an averaging rectifier. Good question. Best regards, -------------------- Mark Empson administrator
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