Harmonics on input |
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Harmonics on input |
Apr 27 2002, 08:57 PM
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Posting Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,060 Joined: 24-April 02 From: Christchurch, New Zealand Member No.: 1 |
Anybody got ideas on good techniques and filters for reducing the harmonics produced on the supply by large drives? Lots used in rural areas for irrigation and resultant supply distortion is causing problems.
-------------------- Mark Empson administrator
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May 17 2002, 01:41 AM
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Posting Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,060 Joined: 24-April 02 From: Christchurch, New Zealand Member No.: 1 |
Hi, I am involved in an existing installation with a large pump that shares a supply transformer with two consumers houses. The inverter is a significant load and well exceeds the combined loads of the houses. The transformer is fed by a long overhead 11KV line.
When the pump is running, one house has problems with the harmonics generated by the VFD but the other does not. Both houses are fed directly from the transformer terminals with underground cables. The inverter is fitted with DC Bus chokes and also with a coupled three phase inductor on the input. The inverter is rated at about 70% of the transformer rating. One solution to the problem is to install a second transformer to supply the two houses but that is an expensive option. Is there a cheaper and effective option that is guaranteed to work?? Mark Empson http://www.lmphotonics.com :( -------------------- Mark Empson administrator
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Jun 20 2002, 08:32 AM
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Intermediate Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 20-June 02 Member No.: 19 |
Mark there is a device available that will "plug"onto the front of a standard 6 P drive ....and produce a Harmonic spectrum closer to that of an 18 Pulse .
This device is approx 99% efficient ,does NOT reduce your voltage onto the drive terminals and is NOT a traditional broadband filter .The total THDI is approx 6% onto the Mains. Whether or not it is cheap enough , I dont know. ......but it works. |
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Jun 20 2002, 08:48 PM
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Posting Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,060 Joined: 24-April 02 From: Christchurch, New Zealand Member No.: 1 |
Hello Harry
Welcome to the forum. I'd like to see more information on this device (and I'm sure others would too). Can you give a reference as to where we can see / purchase such a device?? Thanks, Mark. -------------------- Mark Empson administrator
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Jun 21 2002, 08:33 AM
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Intermediate Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 20-June 02 Member No.: 19 |
Mark , here is some more info on the universal Harmonic filter:
Ø Treats all major harmonics generated by Variable Speed Drives and other 3-ph rectifier loads (5th, 7th, 11th, 13th …) Ø Easily applied to input of a single VSD - No need to phase shift against other VSD’s - No need for costly harmonic studies Ø Will meet IEEE 519 standard for both current and voltage distortion Ø Input current distortion < 8% over entire operating range Ø Power factor .98 lagging to leading over the normal operating range Ø Will not resonate with other power system components Ø Will not be overloaded by other line side harmonic sources Ø Suppresses overvoltages caused by capacitor switching and other fast changing loads Ø Eliminates need for drive isolation transformers, AC line reactors and DC link chokes Ø Removal of harmonics improves overall system power factor Ø Saves energy by reducing upstream harmonic losses while operating at >99% efficiency Ø Reduces DC bus ripple and increases ride-through capability of the load |
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Jun 28 2002, 08:17 AM
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Guests |
Harry,
Is this device available in Australia - where from. |
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Jun 28 2002, 11:43 PM
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Intermediate Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 20-June 02 Member No.: 19 |
Speedy , the answer is yes but I am not sure of the protocol in this regard.......... how can I let you know without promoting someones product ?
Mark ...help us out here. [Edited on 28/6/02 by Harry Dampers] |
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Jun 29 2002, 12:41 AM
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Posting Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,060 Joined: 24-April 02 From: Christchurch, New Zealand Member No.: 1 |
This is an information forum and not a sales forum. I see no difficulty in answering questions about sources of supply, however I do have a problem with blatent sales promotions. What is the brand and outlet? I'm sure that there are others wanting to know. This is part of information sharing and learning.
:) -------------------- Mark Empson administrator
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Jul 3 2002, 02:26 AM
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Intermediate Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 20-June 02 Member No.: 19 |
Mark....and others, I have been informed that these Filters are being sold in Australia by a Perth Comany .......t/p 08 93091864.
My info comes from a collegue that has used them....he passed the tech details around in another offline forum that I participate in (hence the delay in response) ......allegedly there is local manufacture .....and some large Australian customers have field tested and approved them. I have had no applications for these devices yet ....although I can see that for Mines and industries that Self-Generate their Power , there are heavy energy savings ($$$) to be made. |
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Jul 3 2002, 10:39 AM
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Posting Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,060 Joined: 24-April 02 From: Christchurch, New Zealand Member No.: 1 |
This wouldn't be the Mirus Lineator would it? I believe that Emsby sell this in Australia and the phone number looks like the Emsby number. If this is the unit, it is manufactured by a company Mirus in Canada and you can find them at : Mirus
;e; -------------------- Mark Empson administrator
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