Generator Slip And Wind Turbines |
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Generator Slip And Wind Turbines |
May 27 2008, 03:34 PM
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induction generators used in wind machines only generate after the rated RPM is reached and exceeded.
My question has to do with the SLIP zone of maybe 15-20 rpm after that. The generator can maintain 60 hz even if the rpm varies in this zone. What I am trying to understand is the limits on this when forces like the wind push against this. How much is too much for slip to maintain a control on the hz..?? 15-20 rpm seems like an awfully small window to try to control in huge machines like wind turbines and unpredictable push sources like the wind..??? |
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May 28 2008, 10:32 AM
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Posting Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,099 Joined: 24-April 02 From: Christchurch, New Zealand Member No.: 1 |
Hello ip9999
Welcome to the forum. If you overspeed an induction motor, it becomes an induction generator and generates power back into the supply. As you increase the torque driving the motor, the slip increases such that the motor is spinning faster than synchronous speed. The motor exhibits the same slip torque curve while gnerating as it does while "motoring". As the torque is increased, the slip increases until the maximum torque is driven into the motor. If the torque is increased further, the motor will break away and accelerate well beyond synchronous speed. The maximum torque will typically be in the order of 250% rated torque. This will occur at the same slip as the maximum motor torque but will be an overspeed condition. Best regards, Mark. -------------------- Mark Empson administrator
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May 29 2008, 12:41 AM
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Hello ip9999 Welcome to the forum. If you overspeed an induction motor, it becomes an induction generator and generates power back into the supply. As you increase the torque driving the motor, the slip increases such that the motor is spinning faster than synchronous speed. The motor exhibits the same slip torque curve while gnerating as it does while "motoring". As the torque is increased, the slip increases until the maximum torque is driven into the motor. If the torque is increased further, the motor will break away and accelerate well beyond synchronous speed. The maximum torque will typically be in the order of 250% rated torque. This will occur at the same slip as the maximum motor torque but will be an overspeed condition. Best regards, Mark. so your saying in that 250 % of wind force ,the blades will hold back the extra force and slip will continue to keep 60 cycle..in otherwords slip makes adjustments to make that happen until the force is too much and the generator overspeeds and probably triggers a brake..?? |
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May 29 2008, 07:07 PM
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Posting Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2,099 Joined: 24-April 02 From: Christchurch, New Zealand Member No.: 1 |
Yes that is correct.
Best regards, Mark. -------------------- Mark Empson administrator
Skype Contact = markempson | phone +64 274 363 067 LMPForum | LMP Tech Warehouse | L M Photonics Ltd | Empson family | Advanced Motor Control Ltd | LMP Software | Mark Empson Website |
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