AB2005 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Dear Friends; I have recieved a mail from a company that they worked a project where they replaced the DOL and star delta starters with inverters and saved energy. They sent me following example of this change; "Please find the energy saving report finalized after implementation: 1)- 767M2265 Motor Rating: 37KWLoad taken when DOL: 29Amps Load taken when Drive: 8 AmpsSaving in current: 21AmpsEnergy saved: 1.732*500*11*0.9=16KW 2)- 767M1507 Motor Rating: 22KWLoad taken when DOL: 25Amps Load taken when Drive: 13 AmpsSaving in current: 12AmpsEnergy saved: 1.732*500*12*0.9=9.3KW 3)-767M1776 Motor Rating: 18.5KWLoad taken when DOL: 19Amps Load taken when Drive: 3 AmpsSaving in current: 16AmpsEnergy saved: 1.732*500*16*0.9=12.5KW" This is a strange think for me that how can it possible. I would have a meeting with them but first i need to verify from experts. "Don't assume any thing, always check/ask and clear yourself". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marke Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Hello AB2005 First of all, the calculations are not correct as you can not assume that the power factor is high.In the calculations, I assume that the supply voltage is 500V ??That is an unusual voltage. The application is not described. What is the application or is it an open shafted machine. A VFD will reduce the energy consumption only if the machine has significant mechanical losses at full speed, and does not need to operate at full speed to do the same amount of work. The saving is the reduction in mechanical losses when the machine speed is reduced. Calculated savings based on calculated values from measured Amps never work out correctly. Many VFD suppliers claim energy savings in ALL applications using VFDs. If the motor operates at full speed with a VFD in ccircuit, the energy consumed is higher than DOL.The VFD has losses in the order of 3% - 5% plus the motor losses will increase due to the wave shape of the voltage applied to the motor.The current into the VFD will be less than the current into the motor because the displacement power factor is better than 0.95 at the input of the VFD, irrespective of the displacement power factor at the motor. Best regards,Mark. Mark Empson | administratorSkype Contact = markempson | phone +64 274 363 067LMPForum | Power Factor | L M Photonics Ltd | Empson family | Advanced Motor Control Ltd | Pressure Transducers | Smart Relay | GSM Control | Mark Empson Website | AuCom | Soft Starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebosley Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 All of us must do our part to help save the world with even the smallest deeds like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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